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DBM's avatar

Everyone needs unrelenting accountability.

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Lincoln Sayger's avatar

Quite so!

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Rachael  Morgan's avatar

EVERYONE

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John Samson's avatar

Worth noting that if voting data is correct, women will skew against self-interest to support voluntary infanticide. It isn’t coercive men making it a hill to socially-culturally die on.

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Ben Leibowitz's avatar

Abortion is murder

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Ronigan's avatar

"Women can't be held accountable" is an absolute brainlet take, and I've seen far too much of it. The only thing it's good for is letting weak-wristed churchians larp as trad while they simp. Good article.

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Silesianus's avatar

Asking for sensible nuance in sexual dynamics works only when women are treated as responsible adults - and surprise, old mores demanded that more of them than current ones, and curtailed their social responsibilities to the proportion of their actual bargaining power.

To see the world that way however, it requires we scrap ideological lenses and assess people based on their actual, immediate qualities, something we've been told over and over is apparently "prejudice" - no, it is actually me judging them based on what they show, which is the only way I can measure someone up.

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Lincoln Sayger's avatar

It's funny how often that shift from higher standards to a belief in older standards being lower happens in the narratives, these days.

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Clayton Robertson's avatar

It’s amazing to me that no female who had an abortion ever thanked their own mother for not. In other words, “I was allowed to live so that I could murder another”.

STOP THE MADNESS!!!

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JAC's avatar

Great article. Plus, every argument for pro choice is not logically sound. It’s emotionally driven

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J. H. Guy's avatar

Well said. Just got into an argument with someone over this so your article was serendipitous.

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smellycarney's avatar

Sorry, sir. They’re allergic to that.

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Lexi Green's avatar

There are a lot of hot takes in this article that I take issue with but they mostly boil down to semantics. Our culture believes a bunch of lies about sex that ultimately leads to abortion when reality hits them in the face. For starters, the culture believes sex ≠ babies. When in reality, sex = babies. That incongruence with reality has tons of implications for men and women. Both need to be held accountable. I won’t ever stop viewing women as victims of abortion because the women who have had multiple abortions are slaves to their own passions and they’re insane (insanity being defined as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results). Then, the women I know who have had 1 abortion when they were 16 (father and step mom and bio mom forced) or in college (parents pushed for it) def were victims because their “Christian” family put them on birth control pills when they were teenagers because it was the “responsible” thing to do.

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James Dickinson's avatar

"Let me pause for a moment here. I know that many women in the sex trade are slaves who have been coerced into it. This is a reality." Please share your sources for this. Onlyfans is kind of prostitution. How many women voluntarily sign up for that? Who is forcing them to sign? No one. They do it because it is easy money. I think that a minority of women are actually forced into prostitution.

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Lincoln Sayger's avatar

Many women in the sex trade are enslaved. He was bringing that face up as a counterpoint to the online porn thing, which usually isn't the same.

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Rev. Matthew Littlefield's avatar

I didn't say the majority, I said many. I think you are largely right, though sex slavery is a real problem in the world. I actually have been meaning to delve into that deeper as I have had a long standing argument with a friend that the Nordic model of prostitution is evil. He thinks it is a good policy. I think it's a disaster.

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Maria Rustica's avatar

It's actually a very good question what the ratio is between voluntary prostitution and forced sex slavery. It is not an easy one to answer because of the covert circumstances in both cases; and it also makes a difference if you are asking nationally or globally.

But the slave trade (human trafficking) is considered one of the major crime industries globally, its victims are counted in millions, and about half of them are estimated to be sex slaves. (Again, with a LOT of uncertainty about the real numbers.)

If it is true that about 300,000 children have disappeared without a trace in the US alone, and that a large percentage of them presumably were sold as sex slaves, how does that number compare to the estimated number of voluntary prostitutes in the US? One must also remember to add trafficked adults to the first number.

I am genuinely unsure whether there are more voluntary prostitutes or sex slaves in the world as a whole. I'd like to know.

A few examples of sources about the phenomenon of slavery in general around the world:

"“An estimated 1.4 million Nigerians are victims of modern slavery, with women and girls making up the majority."

https://nannews.ng/2025/01/31/nigeria-major-source-for-human-trafficking-in-africa-ibrahim/

In Mauretania, 2% of the population is enslaved:

https://freetheslaves.net/our-work/where-we-work/mauritania/

According to another source, the slaves in question are mainly women and children (probably because they are the most lucrative (sex slavery pays well) and easily manageable):

https://unpo.org/haratin-slavery-and-repression-in-mauritania-unpo-ira-report/

Slavery statistics globally: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-still-have-slavery

Here, the US is estimated to have 1,091,000 slaves in total. How many of them are sex slaves?

Here are some statistics of prostitution in the US:

https://gitnux.org/us-prostitution-statistics/

If it comes to street prostitution, they claim that about 80% of street walkers have been trafficked. But how large a percentage are street prostitutes of the entire population of US prostitutes? It doesn't say.

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Sloth-of-Bangkok's avatar

I disagree. They can’t take accountability. I believe going full handmaiden tale will be easier on their collective psyche. And yes. I am serious here. For several thousand years, our female have adapted that way

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